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there were no insects present, further damage will be prevented by providing water mitigation services
Mold Inspection & Removal / Re: Mold Remediation done Wrong
« Last post by Dominick Manieri on April 27, 2017, 06:14:25 AM »
cool was hoping someone had a contact in Amandas area  :D
Mold Inspection & Removal / Re: Mold Remediation done Wrong
« Last post by PatrickJohnson on April 27, 2017, 02:46:48 AM »
Thanks for the heads up. @DavidSnell will be back on today.
That house looks really bad from the water damage on top of insect infestation and more! A frequent inspection is a must to prevent further damage.
I don't see any photo there. I totally agree, no photo taken of Jesus back then so how would you know it was Jesus. Just sayin'  ;D ;D ;D
Mold Inspection & Removal / Re: Mold Remediation done Wrong
« Last post by Dominick Manieri on April 26, 2017, 06:25:37 AM »
i know i created a post in the wanted section seeking Help for Amanda but wasn't having luck...I even looked at the member map in hopes that someone is close to her. @DavidSnell @Devon Shubin Water Solutions @PatrickJohnson if you guys happen to know anyone remotely close to that area please send them Amandas way  ;D
Introduce Yourself / Re: Im happy I finally registered
« Last post by PatrickJohnson on April 26, 2017, 03:04:35 AM »
Welcome to Restoration Board, and let me know if you have any questions to improve your experience.
Mold Inspection & Removal / Mold Remediation done Wrong
« Last post by Amandag on April 25, 2017, 10:47:14 PM »
Hi everyone. I would like to share my story and see if anyone can give me any advice. I will try and make it brief. I have a manufactured home around 10 years old only owner and no other water leaks or issues. In Sept 2016 I notice noticed mold in bathroom wall from bathtub facuet leaking slowly overtime. I called a company who came in and just cut it out and threw it out the window. ( no containments no removing items out of room or covering them no air scrubbers etc) They also heavily fogged the home with Microban Disinfectsnt Sray Plus. When I returned home with my children my daughter couldn't breathe as she has asthma and other issues. I had to keep her with my grandmother. We also felt ill and had other symptoms in the home. Not sure if it was from mold or microban issue. I started researching mold removal and found out it was done improper. I also found out the microban was not suppose to be fogged in the home with all our belongings. I then had to hire a CIH for air testing and found out home had high levels of stachy chaetonium etc. My daughters room alone was showing up 128 raw count of stachy. We had already left the home so we hired an attorney and had the insurance get involved. We had another company come in Jan 2017. They did not use. CIH protocol relying on themselves to clean. ( I have now found out this is not proper CIH should have made protocol.) They threw out all my carpeting furniture including beds couches etc fridge air conditioners and a tons of items . They sent all clothing blankets curtains electronics including computers and Tvs to CRDN for cleaning. ( that stuff still remains in storage) They then used dirty air scrubbers that were duct taped together I will attach pictures and didn't hepa vac all items left and not wiped a few items down. Then I had air testing done with a CIH who did aggressive air testing with air movers in the home. They failed. Now they are making every excuse as to why it's not their fault they failed and claim there is a hidden mold source causing the issue. I had one CIH tell them there isn't any other issued and hired another for a full home inspection and have a report there is no other mold source. They still argue and say they want to be paid again for another cleaning if they come back. They originally gave an estimate of 15 thousand. They were given 7.  We do not want to release the other 8 as they didn't clean correctly. They also have a bill of 30 grand they want on top of their estimate. The insurance will not give them that. I am now stuck with a home that hadn't passed air testing and have been out for going on 9 months! My son is going to be having an operation on his cleft palate and lip in 3 months my daughter has breathing issued and I am going to be going for open heart surgery I can't bring us home to an unclesn environment. I can't find anyone that wants to help us finish the remaining cleaning when they hear that two companies messed up. I have a CIH that is more than willing to make a protocol and work along side the contractor and do air sampling. He said its a very easy project that just needs the proper cleaning as all physical mold is gone and there is only the Invisable spores left. I have heard all different stories that zero stachy should be found in the air and then that some spores are ok. I have no idea which to believe. I just want to get this nightmare over with and go home. I am from northeastern PA if anyone has any suggestions or advice please let me know I'd greatly appreciate it! For some reason I can upload the pictures of my current air testing results but can email the or send them at a later time to anyone that may be able to offer advice. Thank you
Ever hear someone in the restoration or remediation industry, even the home inspection industry, go on and on about this or that toxic substance in the indoor environment?  Ever go online and find a million different views on a toxic substance in the indoor environment?  (Just search "toxic mold" in google.  You'll find over 13 million pages; many of which don't agree with each other on what is and isn't toxic, symptoms, response techniques, and other important subjects.) 

Recently, I helped two customers (one in Indianapolis, and the other in Terre Haute) in Indiana, who were suffering from different symptoms.  Both felt the symptoms were worse in their homes than outside their homes.  One was diagnosed with a chemical sensitivity, and the other with a toxic substance in her blood from exposure to a mold called Aspergillus fumigatus.  Yet, both were told, by different remediation companies, that the same issue was present and the same response was necessary to address those issues.  This led them to ask, "Jason, can you explain more on types of toxic substances, the route of exposure and stuff like that in your blogs?"

So, here we go....

Now, it's important to understand that this topic is one of extensive research and years of higher education study.  So, we cannot cover every possibility.  What we can do is begin the discuss, and I will respond to any questions you might have.

Let's begin with the general classes of "toxic substances", as it's understood in toxicology (the branch of science concerned with nature, effects and detection of poisons).  These classes include drugs, food additives, pesticides, industrial chemicals, environmental pollutants, natural toxins and household poisons.  To help you understand, I'll give you a brief description of each of these classes, next.


Most people in the Western World consume drugs in some point in their lives.  These drugs vary enormously in chemical structure and possess a wide variety of biological activities (i.e., planned and unplanned impacts on your biological system).  On this later point, it is important to understand that drugs are designed, purposefully, to be highly potent in biological systems, making them an intentional toxin - one of the only foreign substances of known biological activities that we intentionally ingest.  The range of a drug's biological activity (i.e., toxicity) may be due to a number of factors, including but not necessarily limited to: overdose, one's biological disposition in relation to the drug (e.g., a hypersensitivity to the drug), and other factors.

Examples of substances that fall into this class of toxic substances include but are not limited to: alcohol, the active components of cigarettes, and veterinary practices that may be found in some of the foodstuff we ingest.


On that last note, let's look at another intentionally ingested substance that may or may not include toxic substances (i.e., substances that will negatively impact our biology): foodstuff.  While it is true that food additives are usually of low biological activity, it is also true that there are an increasing number of additives being added to our food each year.  (Public awareness is starting to influence the preparation and manufacturing processes of food, increasing a number of products on shelves with a "no additives" label.)  But, food additives aren't the only substances of concern.  There are, also, naturally present components to some foodstuff which may be toxic to certain individuals, like peanuts for example.

While most of these substances, both natural and artificial, are found in very low concentrations (in most foodstuff), for the majority of these substances very little is known of their long-term toxicity (i.e., very little is known of their impact on us when consumed over a long period of time).  This is why it is important to stay on top of your exercise and dietary plans in relation to current biology and goals.


While the most obvious place of exposure to industrial chemicals is in the workplace, history has shown us that the impact of unmitigated industrial practices has the potential to impact the environment around these workplaces.  I recall a young man, in his early twenties, who worked on a carpet cleaning truck.  After about five years of this, he began having chest pain and difficulty breathing.  Thinking he was having a heart attack, he went to the emergency room; where, doctors found a chemical blockage in his lungs.  He was okay.  With treatment he returned to work.  But, the long-term exposure to the cleaning chemicals in the truck - despite having the windows down most of the year - led to his illness, and cost him several weeks off-work.

Industrial chemicals include a huge range of chemical types and many different industries may involve the use or manufacturing of hazardous chemicals as their day-to-day operations.  Some of these chemicals include fentanyl, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide and fluoride, and other types.

Besides industry, some of these chemicals may also be found in homes, due to the application of various chemical interactions caused by some of today's technology; for example, ozone-generating Ultra-Violet (UV) lights and Electrostatic Precipitaters (EPs) in Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning (HVAC) systems inject agents that cause un-natural chemical interactions in the built environment.  (One has to be careful of their use.)

While general exposure to workplace exposure to these chemicals is controlled by law, realistic levels may still prove to be hazardous in the long-term (i.e., long-term exposure in the workplace hasn't been addressed adequately for many of these chemicals) and accidents still occur that may injure an employee or an environment.


When we speak of environmental pollutants, we have to take care not to be fixated on sources of un-natural environmental conditions.  Some natural conditions may also illicit an ill-effect in some biologies.  The most obvious example of this are allergens; those agents that illicit an allergic response in a person.  If one were to measure these allergens in various locations across the United States (U.S.) one would find that the environment does not stay consistent and in each location there are varying types of natural dispositions to the atmosphere.  This is why one person living in the city may have issues with the air quality there but not in an agricultural location in Indiana while a majority do not; and, why the reverse is true of these same people when taken into the agricultural location.  Our biologies differ from one another, as does our response to the dispositions of the environment around us.

That said, there are two main sources of un-natural environmental stressors (i.e., environmental pollutants): industrial processes and deliberate release of pesticides.  These can impact the outdoor environments for miles and those buildings around them, as well as the materials we manufacture into our foodstuff and other products.


Many plants and animals produce toxic substances.  These substances are produced for both defensive and offensive purposes.  Some of these substances are particles and others are gaseous.  Some may contaminate the air we breath, the surfaces we touch, the surfaces they touch (e.g., stinging and biting), and even the food we eat. Some of these substances include but are not limited to: pyrrolizidine alkaloids (such as those found in plans like Senecio and Heliotropium), which can cause liver damage, pennyroyal oil, from the Pennyroyal plant and usd to induce abortions in the U.S., ricin, from the castor oil plant (one of the most toxic substances known), hydrolytic enzyme toxins in snake venom, aflatoxins, from fungi like Aspergillus flavus, and the botulinum toxin, from the bacterium Clostridium botulinum


This class of toxic substances may include some substances in other classes, like pesticides, drugs and solvents; but also include cosmetics, cleaning agents, and other biological systems (e.g., persons, plants and animals). Air dispositions (i.e., the indoor air quality) can play an important role, too, when building design and operation is not adequate or compromised.  The most obvious example of this is carbon monoxide, which results from sources like poorly ventilated stoves, fires and boilers, and running cars in our garages. 


As you can see from this brief, the topic in question is one that is complex and lengthy to cover.  So, for now, I'll leave it here, and let you digest this information.  In the future I'll try to discuss some exposure routes and symptoms, and answer your questions. 

If you have a question or require an inspection of your property, you can contact me at [email protected].

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Flood & Water Damage / Re: Exterior waterproofing helps flooding issues
« Last post by Dominick Manieri on April 25, 2017, 01:17:24 PM »
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